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:iconrainbow-foxy:Rainbow-Foxy posted a status
Wanted to post a warning to my watchers about an artist I had promoted.

Since I feel personally responsible for promoting this artist, I feel as though it would be appropriate and necessary for me to contact any of my watchers (whether on dA or FA) that ordered art from him via my promotion(s), or are inclined to do so. Therefore I figured I should at least post a status, or note people.

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I got a note from someone with evidence that this artist traces works and isn't a very good person, which is an extreme disappointment because I really admired his work.

I feel like an immensely huge ass for promoting him now; his work and prices really were too good to be true, and I am very sorry for promoting someone who is dishonest. Although I was suspicious of his work a bit, I didn't know for sure because I could never match up what was traced from, and didn't want to throw around any false accusations based on paranoia or something. I am truly sorry about this, and I hope you can forgive me for promoting someone that really did not deserve it.

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Heart-of-Asia Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
This is a old post but he recently contacted me to do some of my commissions. So I headed over to his profile and in his comment section was a ton of people complaining about not getting their commissions. Needless to say I went on and googled him and found this post along with a few others on another social media site. His new name is everybery.deviantart.com/?rnrd…
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2016  Student General Artist
Yeah I found him on the new account a little while ago but im....
pick your battles, I tried my best. its not worth it to me to try to start any fight *sigh*
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tireimisu Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Do you know he is now going under the name gromanov?
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Student General Artist
I did not know that, thank you of letting me know!
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tireimisu Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
He's doing his usual dirty trick again, posting a 'Open Commission' in the Job Offer thread in the forum while it should be in Job Services.
Dude needs to be banned.
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ShinjuMarkez Featured By Owner May 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow. This is sad. I was looking to his user profile a few minutes ago and found out that he's not longer here in DA, then I googled it, and found your post.
You know? I think I noticed it before. The idea of him tracing references did cross my mind, but I dunno why I didn't believe it. I guess it was because he had such a nice style and did great artworks. Even so, I was thinking in commissioning him, but had the doubt to do it.
I won't blame him if it's part of his style to "trace"... actually many great traditional artists "trace" to create their paintings (when we're talking about larger canvas paintings).... but what's really wrong here it's the way he dealed with his commisioners and the rude way he talk about them. When people ask for commissions, they expected original results, not the same photo that gave you. So, yeah… this is the most dissappointed new I've read this month :(
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Student General Artist
ooh I didn't know googling would lead to this status post XD
yeah it really did cross my mind as well, but I didn't WANT to believe it, similar feeling.
Tracing content that is not yours is a form of plagiarism, even from photos. I guess universal art communities can be more accepting of tracing, but it my opinion it isn't very good. Anyone can trace an image or a projection; it can be helpful and speed up a sketching or drawing process, but its a bit like cutting corners and cheating. And to avoid any sort of infringing on copyright and whatnot, one should only trace their own content, meaning like their OWN photos they have taken, own intellectual property, etc.

and gosh, yeah, they way he talked about commissioners was terrible.

I hear he made a new account by the name of gromanov 
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missdisfortune Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Sad to hear it, although I'm not surprised. As a college student in my fourth year I'll tell you, teachers and other artists really are (shockingly) fine with others just taking photos and manipulating them and calling it art (which it would be, if it wasn't all stolen). I hated it and it always rubbed me wrong but from my college, it seems to be a popular thing within an older, more "professional" community of artists and widely accepted (which it shouldn't be). 

They were probably taught this was okay, but if you ask me it's common sense that it isn't. 
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
I really dislike this mindset; in my high school art classes, kids would trace over photos, color them in, and call it art. It was perfectly fine and dandy to trace photos, but not already made art. Id figure it'd be common sense that its cheating and wrong. Anyone can trace or edit a photo and call it a day, drawing from scratch is much more difficult. At least if its photo manipulation, say that it is and credit the references/stock... *sigh*

Schools and 'professionals' really shouldnt be embracing and accepting this mindset, its dishonest. And if the tracing wasn't bad enough, he's taken money and ran, and has made rude comments about some clients.
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Stettafire Featured By Owner Edited Apr 23, 2016  Professional Writer
You'll be glad to here then that when I studied A-level photography anyone caught using someone else's work and not giving credit (use of other people's work was allowed for research and editing practise but not for final pieces) would be kicked off the course. 
They were really strict. While there is stock created for people's use, it should be just common decency to credit them. If you really feel the need not to credit then really you shouldn't call yourself a 'professional'. 
But, originality is overrated anyway. *sigh* This is why I also struggle to find decent writers on here, in literature especially this seems to be a massive problem. 
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2016  Student General Artist
That really is pretty good to hear; I wish it was more like that. The arts should be a representation of an artist's skill, whether in drawing and photography, not a manipulation of others' hard work and skills. 
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Stettafire Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2016  Professional Writer
Over here the restriction is applied to all courses. Using someone else's work is known as plagiarism which would get you into trouble in any university in Wales. 
I can't speak for the professional scene, but in regards to universities they are very strict about the originality of their student's work. 
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Angel-of-Two-Wings Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016
Sorry to hear that. I was considering hiring him but now...and I don't blame you
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
I was actually considering getting more work from him when I got my paypal set up because I wanted better-done work from him, and thought that a commission would look nicer. Now I certainly won't be doing business with him...
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Angel-of-Two-Wings Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016
Better not to. I know some artists with cheap prices who never trace. Just let me know and I'll send them your way.
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
I know of lots of artists with nice work and prices too, but I just saw how cheap his were, and of course, they were too good to be true unfortunately 
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Angel-of-Two-Wings Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016
Ah. Alrighty
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Tytoquetra Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016   Digital Artist
Well. :|

Now I'm kind of pissed. No, REALLY pissed.
Not at you, Foxy. Don't think this is your fault.It's okay. We all got fooled.
I actually got art from him, and I feel like a huge idiot for doing it now. I'm just glad I didn't get any more because I was pondering it. I doubt I'm gonna get my money back, but I'm glad you brought it up anyway.

Time to change my wallpaper...
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
What art did you get from him? Can you find any of the refs that he could have traced from?

I know I got a free piece from him for helping promote him, I really did think he was honest, but my suspicions were... somewhat strengthened when I saw the strong resemblance between my piece and my photos; it was also sloppily done and I had expected better work. Getting a note to alert me really confirmed all the doubts, it really is unfortunate. I really looked up to and liked his work. Guess its just proof that when things are too good to be true, they most likely are. 
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Tytoquetra Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016   Digital Artist
It was this and I can't find any refs exactly like this image but he could have always used two and mashed them together. :shrug:

I don't know...
I just feel kinda bad, because it came up to $25, and if this happens to be traced I got something dishonestly finished. ._.
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
yeah i can't seem to find any refs either, but he could have also used photos of himself as the warning had stated he has done before. I am not sure. This is all very unfortunate and I feel terrible. :/
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Tytoquetra Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016   Digital Artist
Well, don't. It's not your fault.
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
thanks, i appreciate it
hopefully the feeling goes away then ;n;
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shorty-antics-27 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student Digital Artist
I hate when people like this pop up. We all get fooled...
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
Big lesson for if its too good to be true, it probably most likely is. :c
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shorty-antics-27 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student Digital Artist
yeah... it's rare when it's too good to be true and it actually is true. ;c Need more of the true.
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
unfortunately so :c
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mute-owl Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016
no one blames you.  it's so hard to be able to tell, especially when their entire business is base don tracing.  sucks that their works is total bullshit though.  no one will hold it against you that you didn't know, i promise.  it happens uou
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
I just feel personally responsible because I promoted him and people wasted their money on his work. If only I would have known I would not have supported him. Its a shame he turned out to be like this; he does seem to have great potential. Unfortunately its wasted when people elect to be dishonest. Very sad when someone who's work you admire turns out to be a sham.
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Cambion-Hunter Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016
It sucks when someone you support is not as great as you thought he or she was. I know the feeling. It is alright. Hug 
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Rainbow-Foxy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Student General Artist
very true, its incredibly disappointing and disheartening to find out these things.
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IamETOH Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
D: by riggswacalaplz
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